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reminds me of discipline from the old man - we had a bench just like that - we didn't need to ask the old man if he wanted us to strip naked, it was just assumed - got some real bad hidings from him. Pity there was a woman present here - it was just the old man and us brothers - brothers had to watch as a deterrent.
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ke Frecherbengel1960 : Ja bei mir ist es heute auch noch angebracht.
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ke TimBru68 : Ja, so war es früher bei mir zu Hause auch. Auch heute wäre das angebracht bei mir
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